In Washington, tonight, there's more hope but no deal yet, and, first thing Thursday, lawmakers' descent into dysfunction could reach an even lower level: Default on the federal debt on top of the government shutdown.
Senate democratic and republican leaders say they're close to a deal but can it even get a vote in the house where the tea party is dug in? President Obama put on more pressure.
President Obama joined furloughed federal workers at a food bank and blamed house republicans for the shutdown and possible default.
"I think house republicans continue to think that somehow they can extract concessions by keeping government shut down or by threatening default."
Many house republicans blame him, for not compromising on the Affordable Care Act
"Given the ruthless and vindictive way the shutdown has been handled, I now believe that this president would willfully act to destroy the full faith and credit of the United States."
If the debt ceiling is not raised by October 17th.
$6 billion in interest payments might not be paid on the 31st.
Then, $67 billion for social security, medicare, and the military.
In West Virginia, furloughed federal information specialist Kim Thomas worried about her kids.
"I've had to dip into my savings already. Next pay day I'll probably have to dip into my children's savings."
One of Kim's senators is democrat Joe Manchin.
"The whole financial world is looking at us and we can govern ourselves."
At midday, senate leaders were hopeful.
"We're gonna get a result that's acceptable to both sides."
A white house meeting was delayed to let senate leaders finish.
But the question is if speaker John Boehner would allow a house vote on any plan that does not roll back Obamacare and spending as tea party republicans demand.
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